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		<title>By: Psyched to visit Lubbock, Texas. Really. &#124; Family Travel Guide</title>
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		<dc:creator>Psyched to visit Lubbock, Texas. Really. &#124; Family Travel Guide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] topic is blogger fam (familiarization) tours and press trips with today&#8217;s wired writers and content [...]</description>
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		<title>By: British Airways targeting social media with first trip for bloggers &#124; Tnooz</title>
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		<dc:creator>British Airways targeting social media with first trip for bloggers &#124; Tnooz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 11:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has been the ire on some blogs when the subject has come up that it has polarised not only the blogging community but also mainstream journalists, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sheila Scarborough</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheila Scarborough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tim,

I&#039;d particularly note one of your last sentences, about disclosure in print magazines. I&#039;d say the disclosure bar is a lot higher online, frankly.  The print world has way too much &quot;wink, wink, nudge, nudge&quot; for my taste, mostly because &quot;that&#039;s the way it&#039;s done.&quot;  Sorry, it&#039;s a new world.

Thanks very much for your thoughts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tim,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d particularly note one of your last sentences, about disclosure in print magazines. I&#8217;d say the disclosure bar is a lot higher online, frankly.  The print world has way too much &#8220;wink, wink, nudge, nudge&#8221; for my taste, mostly because &#8220;that&#8217;s the way it&#8217;s done.&#8221;  Sorry, it&#8217;s a new world.</p>
<p>Thanks very much for your thoughts!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two travel writers visit a fancy new resort within a week of each other. The first is comped by the resort because he is writing a review and a related story for online media that does not pay enough to even cover a massage at the spa. Writer two is on assignment from a glossy magazine that is paying the $3,000 tab for the stay and meals. Writer 1&#039;s review and story are not any more fawning than writer number 2&#039;s and neither one has paid out of pocket for anything. Both are treated well because every guest there is treated well. So where&#039;s the &quot;truth in travel&quot; in all this?

I&#039;ve personally won multiple writing awards from great stories that came out of press trips where someone else was paying the tab, with warts showing and all. I&#039;ve never understood why I would be more honest when a magazine is paying expenses (or I&#039;m paying them myself even) than when someone else is picking up the tab. What would I be worried about---that a PR person might send me a rude e-mail afterwards? That&#039;s supposed to make writers cower and be dishonest? Seems like a big stretch. And don&#039;t even get me started on writers who cover autos, golf, music concerts, restaurants, yada yada. None of them get paid enough to do it all on their own dime, so its freebietown for them to, with no disclosure in any print mag I&#039;ve ever seen. The readers couldn&#039;t care less---it&#039;s just us media people having this discussion.
.-= Tim L.´s last [post] ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://travel.booklocker.com/2010/03/24/the-real-europe-crowds-tourists-and-money/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Real Europe: Crowds, Tourists, and Money&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two travel writers visit a fancy new resort within a week of each other. The first is comped by the resort because he is writing a review and a related story for online media that does not pay enough to even cover a massage at the spa. Writer two is on assignment from a glossy magazine that is paying the $3,000 tab for the stay and meals. Writer 1&#8242;s review and story are not any more fawning than writer number 2&#8242;s and neither one has paid out of pocket for anything. Both are treated well because every guest there is treated well. So where&#8217;s the &#8220;truth in travel&#8221; in all this?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve personally won multiple writing awards from great stories that came out of press trips where someone else was paying the tab, with warts showing and all. I&#8217;ve never understood why I would be more honest when a magazine is paying expenses (or I&#8217;m paying them myself even) than when someone else is picking up the tab. What would I be worried about&#8212;that a PR person might send me a rude e-mail afterwards? That&#8217;s supposed to make writers cower and be dishonest? Seems like a big stretch. And don&#8217;t even get me started on writers who cover autos, golf, music concerts, restaurants, yada yada. None of them get paid enough to do it all on their own dime, so its freebietown for them to, with no disclosure in any print mag I&#8217;ve ever seen. The readers couldn&#8217;t care less&#8212;it&#8217;s just us media people having this discussion.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Tim L.´s last [post] ..<a href="http://travel.booklocker.com/2010/03/24/the-real-europe-crowds-tourists-and-money/" rel="nofollow">The Real Europe: Crowds, Tourists, and Money</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.sheilasguide.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Press trips for travel writers and bloggers &#124; Roaming Tales</title>
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		<dc:creator>Press trips for travel writers and bloggers &#124; Roaming Tales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sheila&#8217;s Guide to the Good Stuff &#8211; Are blogger fam trips a good idea or are they Jurassic PR? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Culinary tourism: what a food blogger brings to the table &#124; Sheila&#39;s Guide To The Good Stuff</title>
		<link>http://www.sheilasguide.com/2009/06/09/are-blogger-fam-trips-a-good-idea-or-are-they-jurassic-pr/comment-page-1/#comment-814</link>
		<dc:creator>Culinary tourism: what a food blogger brings to the table &#124; Sheila&#39;s Guide To The Good Stuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m not personally a big fan of press trips/&#8221;fam&#8221; (familiarization) tours, I will admit that one of the major upsides to the Hawaii Tourism Authority&#8217;s So Much More [...]</description>
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		<title>By: What do new FTC blogging rules mean for press trips and fam tours? &#124; Sheila&#39;s Guide To The Good Stuff</title>
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		<dc:creator>What do new FTC blogging rules mean for press trips and fam tours? &#124; Sheila&#39;s Guide To The Good Stuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The problem is &#8211; just like making no decision is, in fact, a decision &#8211; it is in those unwritten posts, those criticisms left unsaid, where at least some of the travel truth lies.  I addressed such issues in detail in one of this blog&#8217;s most highly-trafficked posts:  Are blogger fam trips a good idea, or are they Jurassic PR? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The problem is &#8211; just like making no decision is, in fact, a decision &#8211; it is in those unwritten posts, those criticisms left unsaid, where at least some of the travel truth lies.  I addressed such issues in detail in one of this blog&#8217;s most highly-trafficked posts:  Are blogger fam trips a good idea, or are they Jurassic PR? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila Scarborough</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheila Scarborough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but you can look at yourself in the mirror every day - the only point of reference needed, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but you can look at yourself in the mirror every day &#8211; the only point of reference needed, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris Bordessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris Bordessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting discussion. As I&quot;m coming in late, much has been covered, but I wanted to share that I&#039;ve also been TOO honest with some of my editors. I visited several spots for a story for a major American company with tickets comped (not an entire fam trip, but many expenses were covered). I was disappointed with one place and told my editor so, and left it out of my story. She chose to ignore my firsthand experience and write a review herself to include in the piece, simply because she felt it should be included. Happily, this piece does not carry my byline.

So, while in that particular case the comps weren&#039;t disclosed, I chose to use my own journalistic integrity and NOT include a destination, only to have that integrity shot down by the higher ups. Sometimes people don&#039;t want to hear the truth, I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting discussion. As I&#8221;m coming in late, much has been covered, but I wanted to share that I&#8217;ve also been TOO honest with some of my editors. I visited several spots for a story for a major American company with tickets comped (not an entire fam trip, but many expenses were covered). I was disappointed with one place and told my editor so, and left it out of my story. She chose to ignore my firsthand experience and write a review herself to include in the piece, simply because she felt it should be included. Happily, this piece does not carry my byline.</p>
<p>So, while in that particular case the comps weren&#8217;t disclosed, I chose to use my own journalistic integrity and NOT include a destination, only to have that integrity shot down by the higher ups. Sometimes people don&#8217;t want to hear the truth, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Lessons from a Press Trip that Did Not Happen &#124; nerd's eye view</title>
		<link>http://www.sheilasguide.com/2009/06/09/are-blogger-fam-trips-a-good-idea-or-are-they-jurassic-pr/comment-page-1/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Lessons from a Press Trip that Did Not Happen &#124; nerd's eye view</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] People will take pot-shots at you if you accept the terms of writing in exchange for travel. Let them. It&#8217;s your call, pal. There&#8217;s a lot of contention about bloggers and press trips and you&#8217;re going to have to find your own way. [...]</description>
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